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Re: The Fifty United States, etc.

Well, here's my detailed critique.  BTW, this is not to undercut your effort
in actually doing the work -- it's much easier to correct something like
this than to do it in the first place.  (Ditto for the German placenames,
Erik.)

> united states           iunaityd steits
			iuNAItyd. steits.  Remember that "y" syllables,
	like "[rlmn]" ones, are skipped in figuring penultimate stress.
>    washington dc           UAcin,tn diCIS
	I don't like this "diCIS" much.  Either follow English pronunciation
	with "diSIS.", or else use "dycys.", using Lojban letter words.
> 
> alabama                 alybamas
			elybemas, per Brian Gottlieb's list (henceforth BG)
>    montgomery              mantGAmeris
				mantgamyris.
>    birmingham              BRminxam
>    mobile                  mobil
> alaska                  aleskas
			.yleskas. (BG)
>    juneau                  dzunos
				djunos.
>    anchorage               ANkoridz
				ENkoridj.
>    fairbanks               ferbanks
				feirbenks.
> arizona                 arisonas
			erizonas. (BG)
>    phoenix                 finyks
>    tuscon                  tusan
>    tempe                   tempes
> arkansas                ARknsas
>    little rock             LItl,rak
> california              kalifornias
			kelifornias. (BG)
>    sacramento              sakramentos
				sekrymentos. (BG modified)
>    san francisco           sanfransiskos
				senfrensiskos. (BG)
				sanfransiskos. (Spanish)
>    los angeles             losANdzylys [spanish: losANxeles]
				losENdjylys.
> colorado                kolorados
			kyl,r,ados.
>    denver                  denvr
>    boulder                 boldr
>    pueblo                  pueblos
> connecticut             konEtikyt
			kn,Etikit.
>    hartford                xartfrd
>    bridgeport              bridzport
				bridjport.
>    new haven               nuxevn
				nuxeivn.  (Your version sounds like "New Heaven"!)
> delaware                dely,uer
>    dover                   dovr
>    wilmington              UILmin,tn
> florida                 FLOridas
			flarydas. [Spanish: FLOridas.]
>    tallahassee             talyxasis
				telyxasis. (BG)
>    jacksonville            DZAKsnvil
				djek,sn,vil. (BG modified; no stress mark needed)
>    miami                   mai,iamis
				mai,emis.
>    tampa                   tampas
				tempas. (BG)
>    orlando                 orlandos
				orlendos. (BG)
> georgia                 djordjas
>    atlanta                 atlantas
				etLANtys. (BG)
>    savannah                syvanas
				syvanys. (BG)
> hawaii                  xyvai'is
>    honolulu                xanylulus
> idaho                   aidyxos
>    boise                   boisis
> illinois                ilyNOIS
>    springfield             sprinfild
>    chicago                 cikagos
> indiana                 indi,ianas
>    indianapolis            indi,n,Apolis
				indi,n,Epolis. (BG)
>    gary                    garis
				geris.
>    fort wayne              fort,ue,n
			Overkill, I think: "fort,uen."  The English syllable
"way" is difficult in Lojban: the natural spelling is "uei", but that turns
out to mean "ue,i" because Lojban doesn't have triphthongs.
> iowa                    AIo,uas
>    des moines              deMOIN
				dymoin.
> kansas                  kansas [!]
			kensys. (BG)
>    topeka                  topikas
				topikys. (BG)
>    wichita                 UItcitas
> kentucky                kentukis
			kenTYkis. (BG modified)
>    frankfurt               frankfrt
				frenkfrt.
>    louisville              LUy,vil
				LUy,vl (BG)
	This leads naturally to telling of a fiendish trap.  Ask your victim,
	"How do you pronounce the capital of Kentucky, {LUys,vl} or
	{LUy,vl}?"  The victim will indignantly answer "{LUy,vl}", at which
	point you sweetly inform him/her that "the capital of Kentucky is
	pronounced {frankfrt.}"  I once caught a native Kentuckian with this!
> louisiana               lu,uisi,anas
			luzi,ENys. (that's how they pronounce it there!)
>    baton rouge             batnRUZ
				betnRUJ.
>    new orleans             nu,orLINS [or nu,or,lyns]
> maine                   mein
>    augusta                 auGYStys
				.aGYStys. (BG)
>    portland                portlynd
>    bangor                  bangr
				bengr. (BG)
> maryland                merylynd
>    annapolis               aNApolis
				.eNEpylis.
>    baltimore               BALtimor
			I say "boltymor.", but the natives say "bolt,myr.".
> massachusetts           masyTCUsyts
			mesyTCUsyts
>    boston                  bas,tn
> michigan                micygn
>    lansing                 lensin
>    detroit                 diTROIT
> minnesota               minesotas
>    saint paul              seintPAL
>    minneapolis             mini,Apolis
				mini,epylis. (no stress mark needed)
>    duluth                  duLUT
				dyLUT. (BG)
> mississippi             misisipis
>    jackson                 dzak,sn
				djek,sn.
> missouri                misuris
			miZURys. (local shibboleth)
>    jefferson city          DZEfr,sn sitis
				DJEF,r,sn. sitis.
>    saint louis             seintlu,is
> montana                 montanas
			mantenas. (BG)
>    helena                  xelinas
>    billings                bilins
> nebraska                nebraskas
			nybreskas. (BG modified)
>    lincoln                 lin,kn
>    omaha                   Omaxas
> nevada                  nevadas
			nyvadas.
>    carson city             kar,sn sitis
>    las vegas               lesvegas
				lasveigas.
> new hampshire           nuxamcr
			nuxamp,cr. (I think the locals pronounce the "p")
>    concord                 kankrd
>    manchester              MANtces,tr
				MENtces,tr.
> new jersey              nudzersis
			nudjerzis.
>    trenton                 trenton [!]
				tren,tn.
>    newark                  nu,uark
				nu,rk (I was born there)
> new mexico              nuMEKsikos
>    santa fe                santaFES
				sentyFEIS. (BG modified)
>    albuquerque             ALbykerkis
				.ELby,kr,kis.
> new york                nu,IORK
			nuIORK (no comma needed)
>    albany                  albynis
				olbynis. (local pronunciation, first syllable
	is "awl".
>    buffalo                 BYfylos
>    rochester               RAtces,tr
>    syracuse                sirykius
				sirykiuz.
>    binghamton              BINxam,tn
				BIN,m,tn.  (The "h" is silent.)
> north carolina          nortkarolainas
			Invalid, contains vowel+"lai".  "nortkerlainas."
>    raleigh                 rales
				rolis. (local shibboleth:  "rawlee").
>    charlotte               carlyt
> north dakota            nortdakotas
			nortdykotas.
>    bismark                 bismark [!]
				bizmark.
>    fargo                   fargos
> ohio                    oxaios
			o'ai,os.
>    columbus                koLYMbys
>    cleveland               klivlynd
>    cincinnati              sinsinatis (sinsemilla, anybody?)
				sinsinetis.
> oklahoma                oklyxomas
			okly'omas.
>    oklahoma city           oklyxomasitis
				okly'omasitis.
>    tulsa                   tulsas
				tylsas.
> oregon                  ORegan
			.orygan.
>    salem                   seilym
>    portland                portlynd
>    eugene                  iuDZIN
				.iuDJIN.
> pennsylvania            pen,sl,veinias
>    harrisburg              XArisbrg
>    philadelphia            filyDELfi,as
				no change (but natives say "fyLYFia")
>    pittsburgh              pitsbrg
> rhode island            rodailynd
>    providence              PRAvydns
> south carolina          sautkarolainas
			sautkerlainas.
>    columbia                koLYMbi,as
				koLYMbi,ys.
> south dakota            sautdakotas
			sautdykotas.
>    pierre                  pi,IER
>    sioux falls             suFALS
				suFALZ.
> tennessee               tenySIS
>    nashville               nacvil
				necvil.
>    memphis                 memfis
> texas                   teksas
			tekses.
>    austin                  aus,tn
				.as,tn.
>    houston                 xius,tn
				I think ".ius,tn" is better.
>    dallas                  dalys
				delys. (BG)
> utah                    iutas
>    salt lake city          saltleiksitis
> vermont                 verMANT
			vrMANT.
>    montpelier              mantPEli,er
				mantPIlier (local shibboleth)
>    burlington              BURlin,tn
				br,lin,tn.
> virginia                virdzinias
			vrdjinias.
>    richmond                ritcmynd
>    norfolk                 norfok
> washington              UAcin,tn
>    olympia                 oLIMpi,as
>    seattle                 si,A,tl
				siEtl (BG)
> west virginia           uestvirdzinias
			uest. vrdjinias. (clearly separated in speech)
>    charleston              TCAR,l,stn
				TCARLstn (BG)
> wisconsin               uiskansin
>    madison                 madysn
				medy,sn
>    milwaukee               miluakis
> wyoming                 ui,omin
>    cheyenne                cai,AN
				cai,EN. (BG)
>    casper                  kaspr
				kespr.

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